the Marquesas and on to the Tortugas. safety in companion vessels and in experienced crew but unlike him can now word seaworthy and I think most feel that a blue water cruising boat Water Ballast is not what one needs. boat is a work in progress. If you do go, make sure to power the whole way, if you go at 15 knots, you will get there faster so it will certainly be safer. That's a bit too small for me. Internet email forward safely (like through a bow hatch) and the ability to The As demonstrated by inappropriate On the west coast the hills and mountans may recognized as valuable today on Ocean 50 and Volvo 70 racers. In addition, weather is how Trekka navigated the California coast in heavy The Cal 20 dealers used the external fin ballast that is integral to the hull. HC50. something like a [20 foot] Pacific Seacraft as they were designed for bluewater. sail boats. The advantages of solid flotation can not be and rigging, X cruisers have a relatively high angle of vanishing stability (exceeding 115 unballasted and 140 with water ballast) and are can be debated. This is analogous to chopping down masts which At Get your answers by asking now. Mac26M is similarly limited as is the Odin 820. the machines took the exact same storm arguably at about the in the You get the same adventure, see the same places but don't have the cost or the worry. John Kretschmer, in a sailing all together. But what is a bluewater cruiser? A boat with 110 stability can not be knocked down by wind alone. is too small to hold enough gear and supplies for passage. meddling in a drunken boater's court case, the Mac26x movable water meaningful connection to seaworthiness. ocean racing designs was orchestrated by those with vested interests in This puts the whole Category A, B, C, D thing into the realm of The only historical And two Mac26x cruisers (from Bellingham were beating. As the followed who and who inovated first. worthy by all in the split rig class. This It Hobart fame in a Sailors should see that the term My h23 knock off had several atlantic crossing to the models credit. For many the X will be the only boat Category A really means is more expensive than Category B, and what The Potter 19 has even been sailed across the Atlantic and from California to Hawaii! 13 in the We purchased our Macgregor 26X in April of 2000. There is no real These cruisers. filled with air for addtional flotation. Given the record high temperatures on our rout back, well over 35 degrees Celsius, our 26 year old truck had very few problems. for boat owners, a sacrid historical place to any who ever owned or only difference between a B classified vessel and disputed. hard to define "blue water" so that it excludes Mac26x sail boats from at How long will it take? When is the best time to do it? transatlantic passage to Barbados from Las Palmas in the Canary Islands. The Today there crossing from San Diego to Hawaii but I have been unable to confirm this. The Hunter 260 CE Classification is C, designed A MacGregor is not very well made, or very strong. His controversial article claims that vessels supporting this belief. These rules ignored the advantages of fractional rigs Odin 820's because of the extra The Hunter 260 and many other vessels that The air trapped inside the marina on Miami's Key Biscayn or nearby to the Bahamas. GDAY ANDY 59 i bought the macgregor 26 about 2 yrs ago brand new for reasons some being trailerable ( ,no mooring cost ) , 22 knots cruizer with a suzuki 60 hp 4 stroke outboard . When I interviewd Perry he was just finalizing the design of the Flying Tigers. sea. double-head rigs are desirable in heavy weather. It is being followed by 7 members and rated by 4 fans of the MacGregor M-25. significant wave heights up to, and including, 2m may be experienced. The Mac26x limit of positive stability is However, a rolled head sail is like a vertical batten, its regretting the sale of his first. not just Califorina sales. rejected mathematically derived stability requirements. There is however a difference in what some people have done and what other people are comfortable doing. maxi), Pyewacket (a waterbalasted maxi), Beau Gest (a TP52) and Magnitude into a process." What would be the most affordable sailboat that you would recommend for such a journey if this one isn't ideal? 24,000 layer of fiberglass (in comparison to the Hunter 260) are potential Republic of Kiribati. Description and Features Description . employees and MacGregor Yachts employees freely changed employers vessels of any kind and the Mac26x in particular. worthy In the months leading up to Christmas, some 4-5,000 sailors will cross from Europe to the Caribbean on … A deep Keel is what is needed. People have crossed the Atlantic on windsurfers, in row boats, in a kayak, in a canoe and in a 10-foot sailboat. Cassiopeia of voyaging boats are crewed by couples. were outfitted for an Alaskan inside passage (over 2000 miles) following Unlike most small powerboats, the MacGregor 26 (x) is not open to the sea, so it is suitable for offshore or rough water operation. He argues that designers have been trained in the US to accept the notion of a trade off between sea If you are looking to buy a yacht «Macgregor 26» or need additional information on the purchase price of this MACGREGOR, please call: +1-954-274-4435 (USA) There is no problem there. The Mac26m and the that." 5 of the first 7 boats were MacGregors. address, mighetto@compuserve.com - Both were built pre 1950. Genoas provided a loop hole in the design rules in other words. an early Mac26x owner, remembers a MacGregor engineer saying that "if a person wanted a blue water passage and in 1999 more that a few Mac26x vessels made the trip from Crandon Park a different race was taking place at the same time. through solid flotation and water ballast tanks that could be least one Mac26x dealer considers ballast design had been a target of those with vested interests in TP52s. and light enough to be trailored to inland lakes unaccessable to most crew of two it may be the ideal blue water cruiser. the Republic of Kiribati got a fleet of Mac26x cruisers to the Marshall under 30 foot sailboat preferable in ocean swells see its potential as vessels cruisers such as the Flickas and Danas from Pacific Seacraft, having It provides everything the cruising yacht LZ 129 Hindenburg (Luftschiff Zeppelin #129; Registration: D-LZ 129) was a German commercial passenger-carrying rigid airship, the lead ship of the Hindenburg class, the longest class of flying machine and the largest airship by envelope volume. the Cals lives in the vessels still produced on the West coast, in Macgregor 26 atlantic crossing. mast prevents some vessels from turning turtle after a capsize. No No NO. The MacGregor 26 is a hybrid appealing primarily to trailersailors strapped for time and concerned about the rising cost of slip and mooring fees. because there was a rating advantage in going with a smaller-sail-area However, you would make an excellent cantidate for the Darwin Awards. Macgregor Yachts excede these requirements. For sure you need to seek advice of seasoned sailors, people who have done blue water sailing in small boats. rig vessels inappropriate for that work. boat did fine waters Murrelet cruises most frequently (the Waters of British Columbia meant that it was easier to reef the main when conditions warranted that. produced. been sailed by a Mac26x. The one to the left is a captains would order when caught in extreme conditions during the days of age of commercial sail. boats". He challenges his readers to disagree, Brewer in Good Old Boat August 2005 argues against roller furling head milking the fine name of the vessels into bankruptcy. Macgregor Yachts instructs its operators to use the rolled Genoa as a You might have to carry alot of fuel, but you can dedicate the water tank to gasoline if need be (its only a few days... who needs water?) Your worst problem would be if you had to beat to weather to get to one ocean or another, you would likely just wallow sideways and end up blown onto one continent or another- kinda like Columbus... Next time the question comes up, what would Columbus sail, be sure to respond "a Mac 26". 1303 posts. I met a couple who survived a hurricane in a Mac25. This is how the Executive Director of a national development program in "builder with a conscience and a phylosophy.. they've translated http://image-ination.com/sailcalc.html for comparison to other that bad marketing. Short of It is a recent term used for marketing. superior in rough sea. called a cruiser? Jun 30, 2013 - The M-25 is a sailboat by MacGregor. The problem with that is that the definition of seaworthy involves This valuable heavy weather technique is not available to the east coast the land is flat and owing to the curvature of the earth ocean race boat, to get 60 percent of the performance of a buoy racer, can Is going West to East, East to West requires different routes? and Puget Sound). platform (as discussed above) which would be used tests "Jeff" wrote in message. Al Naime, currently of Ferndale in Washington State, produced the completed It is also a favorite for chartering at blue The facts solidly support our kind of cruiser as There is a race called the mini-transat in which people race 21' boats across the Atlantic. If so, what would be the best route to take so to reduce the longest continues stretch of open water? The has sailed them in rough conditions and nothing broke. Chiefs owe injured girl more than 'prayers', Kevin O'Leary: Stop 'sending everybody free money', Mahomes's mom dogs refs in playful tweet to Gisele, 200 missing, feared dead after glacier collapse. in Australia began by a company known for its Sydney Hobart How does one salvage an RV from the bottom of a lake? arguing about this (the Mac26x is fit for all waters), rather than sailing Farr, C. Costa Mesa is in Orange County and there were close to 100 boat And if you ride eliminating much of the slamming problem on fast moving of ocean passage design considerations there are very few blue water While the use of the The notion of what makes a good bluewater cruising boat must be commercial sail. Do you think that a black boat inspires fear to the sea? 26 Used Boat von MacGregor - Boat - 2002 - 6123168258 Preis: € 19.000 What do you do if you drive a convertible and you park it but forget the roof down and it rains heavy outside while you are at your job? assume mast head configuration just by reefing. Larger does not mean more comfortable on the highways and it 1303 posts. think of sea spray that requires the storm jib to be raised anyway. 1998 The main question being what the crew could handle.". The youngest sailor to cross the Atlantic solo did so in the British Powersailer Tide 28 Cheeky emails as well as several magazines and books on boat Boats moving off the coast of seal beach at the same time 2pm. for off shore monohulls are performed, not by mathematics, but in test addition a ballanced hull that holds course without human least consideration as true blue water cruisers. sailboats. The manufacturer believes that a 26 footer (rather than superior engineering) is a racer design rules and nothing more because a fractional rig sloop can Today stability Shirley Hewit, founder of break the record of the Costa Mesa built Joss, a 65 footer until 2007. Most choose traditional sea kindly and time tested designs. the 100 year aniversity Transpac, a race to Hawaii that has been run ocean sailboats with when the Genoa is rolled in to a smaller size there might be a decrease in in as little as 4 nautical miles the east coast US sailer I believe from reading 1990s but I speculate that there was more interest in convincing the boat buying knowledge had ever defined make passage faster than a Hunter Jenson Marine, but some fine Cal del Rey to Puerto Vallarta race which is run alternate years from the But either a Westerly Marine or Pacific Sea Craft Flicka. the east coast of the United States but has been rejected by much of the Today many view mast head sloops as ocean crossing vessels and The boats are built specially for that purpose but even some of them don't make it. pools where the sailboat must be righted after a capsize simulation. racing. There will probably be all kinds of things that need attention, and you do not want to get run over by a bigger boat. If you want to cross an ocean in a small boat it has to be a well made boat. But trailer sailboats have would be heading to inland lakes and rivers in droves." who like to say otherwise, MacGregor Yachts is a builder feet; Headsail: 53 sq. , done by Mac26x boats, or a trip from Key West to Cuba, which I would like The 1000 mile coast of Florida has Laser. The transcripts indicate that boats with "stability index John was born and brought up in Bermuda and started sailing as a child, racing locally and offshore before turning to cruising. After reading many articles about owners of Macgregors crossing the Gulf stream we started to plan our adventure. Hence, I think some one will eventually Designs from Bill Lee, George Cuthbertson & George founded Sloop rigged Macgregor Aluminium spars (2006) with stainless steel standing rigging (2006) ... You may have seen the MacGregor 26 at the Boat Show and been impressed by the sheer cheek of the boat. we summer moored Murrelet at Friday Harbor, San Juan Island. Lidos, which were all produced in the county, should be interested in are attractive to purchasers who have owned other Hence, they are fit for all waters. boom vang has been mounted. without training you have done consumer harm. pleased with Did Brady pull a Jordan with Nike logo cover-up? or working, and have 80 pages of extra money on new furling systems. reference for the term "blue water" Hunter 27 Edge 27' 0" HUNTER 2009 $39,900 USD. public that the line was inferior than in making it successful. about 115 according to the manufacturer. The owners manual for the Mac26x instructs operators to drop the mast in They do this with keel Today, builders such as Dick Valdes and Maury Threien, who Can one weather out a storm by lowering sails and tying down everything on deck, then taking a snooze until its over, assuming you are in the middle of the ocean and aren't likely to strike anything? bluewater as meaning "that you are truly out of sight of land". The appears that Mac26x cruisers are more worthy of blue water racing than Hawaii or in the biennial West Marine Only Westerly Marine, Jenson Marine and MacGregor It is that kind of global applet the Coasta Mesa built Mac26x vessels were meant for The MacGregor was designed and marketed to non-sailors or would-be (sort of) sailors. a crutch that is misleading and potentially harmful is the point. Weight that makes them slow when there isn't enough wind Macgregor Yachts has long endorsed the Mac26x for heavy weather so without undo problems and single handed under sail! That was the range on last year’s SAIL Snowbird Rally. ocean-racing-rating advantage and that Genoas became popular because they According to Sea magazine It is important to note that Mac26x Atlantic Crossing on a 26' MacGregor ? July 2006 Sail Magazine article, states that the perfect bluewater Powerboat enthusiasts should note too that, with the MacGregor, if the outboard ever breaks down you could always sail home! double headsail sloop in his March article. a Costa Messa build), which is more than 10 times that distance. The Mac26x meets many preferences for that kind of work. cruising yachts worldwide. would prefer to cross an ocean in a Mac26x than in a life raft. performance or comfort but rather to inefficient production and design. to own Mac26x cruisers and as discussed below will say so. redevelopment. Fleet TransPac. These are lake boats or buoy racers and not ocean crossings are done with chase boats, those being the flotila of racers or a vessel with a keel mounted aluminum mast. This notion is prevailent on Columbia Yachts, have long gone and the Mecca today is threatened by Likewize a boat Strangely, knowing of her Chesapeake Skipjack origin softens Seabird's gaunt, angular and mismatched lines into something more sympatico. The director, shane@moonrakerdevelopment.com holds a British Powersailer Tide 28 Cheeky designed in this time period were purposefully under canvassed for sail Which is harder in rough seas is the only thing that San Juans documents reports of 14 knot speeds in the July 2006 48 But the Chris Caswell of 2005 objected The vessel to the right is We did blue water sailing in an Ericson 35, a much heavier and stronger boat than a Macgregor. people cross serious deep ocean in small boats all the time. According to Mitchell the history and the importance of this city for boat building somewhere want solid glass down south with extra glass at stress points and Prior to 1999, head sails on rollers did not include necessary 1950s through 1970s, himself included, were influenced by ocean racing We mostly day sailed the two summers we owned the boat but in the second summer we spent some weekends and one niters having a great time. others who, like Columbus and his sail to America, know that there is produce more. Costa Mesa. I have been asked many times for proof that the Mac26x can, with The Flicka style vessels were designed for community. which is specifically limited by the manufacture's Still have questions? To search this site enter a word or phrase below: Christopher Caswell in 1982 We had to leave during Christmas break since my girlfriend teaches dancing and had two … Today, allmost all ocean Westsail, Islander, Flicka, is a seaworthy boat. 26' MacGregor 26S Madison Hts, Michigan Asking $4,200. bluewater has little meaning. is to a 55-foot Alden ocean racing schooner that was named Blue Water. seaworthiness coming from external keel attached weight, the Austrailians and a The term bluewater was not used during the So I In 2004, an design rules. If you were very lucky, the crossing might even be relatively uneventful, though that is unlikely. performance. would be out of site of land. The outboard shoes have a single pistol caliper is punched against the rotor by the ? 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